Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Foot Dragging... Knuckle Dragging... Neanderthals

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show tonight on MSNBC, and between host and guest liberal hypocrisy was on full display.

Maddow attempted to equate Grayson's "Holocaust" rhetoric to statements made by Republican representatives. She actually had a little bit of a point, in the sense that it has taken some extreme statements by those on the right to awaken the masses to the oncoming socialistic monstrosity known as "health care reform."

However, she went over the top in the number of Republican quotes she used, and there came a point where the quotes she played were actually based in hard fact, therefore invalidating her comparison completely.

Maddow attempted to regain some credibility by offering criticizm of Grayson, stating that his remarks could be "part of that inflammatory montage" and were a "departure from the civility that you would hope to see in political debate in Congress." However, she then tried to go back to slamming Republicans, saying that due to their previous remarks it is ridiculous of Republicans to demand an apology from Grayson.

As she introduced Grayson, Maddow asked if he meant his words literally. He attempted to say that it was all tounge-in-cheek; then proceeded change the subject by stating that Republicans have no plan for health insurance reform. This is simply untrue, as seen in this outline available for all to read. Additionally, Republicans have been pigeonholed in committee on more than one occasion since this issue again became the national debate.

To be fair to Maddow, she attempted to pin Grayson down to the Third Reich reference invoked by his rhetoric. He waffled twice, attempting to deflect the issue back to words said by Republicans, and raising issues like "44,000 people dying every year because they don't have health care" which is an open-ended and unverifiable number meant to pull at heart strings.

Upon her third request for his opinion as to whether or not he thought "Holocaust" was appropriate, he finally offered an explanation of sorts. As Maddow nodded her head in agreement, Grayson said:

"It may not have been the best choice of words, but my words don't matter, that's not what's important here. What's important is that we do what we need to do, that we solve these problems."

When given a chance to truly call out one of her own, she nods like the good media sheep that she is and allows Grayson to attempt to diminish the importance of his own words. After Maddow just browbeat the hell out of Conservatives for their "hateful rhetoric," as has been done by the entire left-wing media since the beginning of this discussion to anyone who offers a dissenting opinion, she does not stop him and at least make some small effort to put Grayson in his place? Fascinating, to say the least.

Grayson then goes back to the party line of "Republicans do nothing, all they do is block everything." Maddow then opens up the opportunity for Grayson's Grand Finale, and it indeed is grand.

She asks what would be the best method for Democrats to fight Republicans, complimenting him on how he's taken a very "rhetorical stand" as a legislator, just as he campaigned... funny, didn't we just discuss how rhetoric and argumentative stances are not what's best - if a Republican is doing it?

I'm not going to tell you how it ended... but if you want to shortcut, jump in at about the 9:00 mark...

12 comments:

One Ticked Chick said...

This guy's a joke and is just trying to make a name for himself on the national political stage. The name I would use to describe him is an unscrupulous, foot-dragging, knuckle-dragging, nattering nabob neanderthal.

Candle said...

I love how this Maddow guy lets "knuckle draggers" just completely pass without even raising his unibrow. I'm glad you cover this show in a way, because I won't watch it :) Good to know what they are up to without having to sit through it all.

Anonymous said...

Such an incredible idiot, using Congress as a place for his moronic theatrics.

Then again, he's only taking after the example of his leader.

Great piece, Dave - I can't stomach thinking about Grayson and Maddow long enough to write something of this depth...

Kid said...

He knows perfectly well that government run [non]health care will truly holocaust millions of our Moms, Dads, Uncles and Aunts. Let alone Us.

Takes playing hardball to a never before seen fascist level. Truly. And the Obama supporters don't get it.

Well, msnbc caters to the mindless. It's usually 30 seconds of issue talking then on to Michelle's toned arms for the next 10 minutes.

Soloman said...

Ticked - what's really scary is that if you go to the youtube page, there are actually people who think his saying this crap is a good thing.

Unless he's in a very liberal district (southwest of Orlando) he's toast in 2010. Even the older Jews who might normally vote Dem and even voted Obama (God knows why) will have this guy out on his ass.

Soloman said...

Candle - I'm glad to be the one who brings you the uni-brow guy and BathTubBoy Olbermann.

I know most can't stomach them; I study them. They're fascinating like a cancer... or a train wreck...

Soloman said...

Track - You said it, and now his leader (Pelosi) has his back completely, as I'm sure you've heard.

There is such a double standard for those who have no standards, it's amazing.

Soloman said...

Kid - what's sad is that MSNBC is now guilty of everything the left has accused FNC of being.

They are clearly the White House media arm, as well as the fact that the now are creating information or lying in order to make their point, because their point can't be made with truth and facts.

Kid said...

I believe they've been the democrat media for a long time. Decades.

Their main MO is to pre-accuse the opposition of what they intend to do themselves. Mis-direction and it works pretty good on your average TV junkie.

I will say that I think they are pathological liars. In the clinical sense, meaning that it would not even occur to the to tell the truth about anything.
Hillary talking about flying into somewhere under 'sniper fire' 3 times on national venue when there was video of the event available and actually presented by CBS...
Plus who would believe that any first lady AND her daughter would be set down in range of snipers and told to run down to the tarmac to the waiting cars. !!! Jumpin Jesus !
Well, they are surrounded by the dumbest people on Earth, and so they must feel they can get away with floating this kind of BS.

Anyway, pathological to the point that once they tell the story twice, it becomes fact in their minds.

Kid said...

To be concise...
"video presented by CBS to the absolute contrary."

gravel kucinich paul nader said...

Rachel sure did have a big problem with Grayson's use of a word.
She sounded just like an AIPAC Neocon pushing for a retraction.

Honesty compassion intelligence guts?
We have an ongoing American Holocaust.
Do you still want to believe what they tell you about 9/11?
The guilty are busy importing private mercenaries to hide behind.

Soloman said...

gravel kucinich paul nader -

Maddow had no problem with what Grayson was saying. She had to play the feigned integrity as the segment opened, but as Grayson mocked Conservatives she say there nodding in approval and agreement.

And please - don't bring truther stuff around here. I don't buy it, just as I don't buy birther stuff.